08:09.9 If I want to carry on living in [this city] I’ve got to have a secure job, but also there’s certain aspirations I have that I feel I won’t be able to achieve because I’m just thinking about employability, blah, blah, blah… I enjoy photography… [and] this summer… I got to the point where I suddenly started to see…a real start and that was quite exciting… But I don’t know how to achieve that… The more fine arts side of [this institution]… they don’t seem to have any fears and… don’t see any limitations, whereas I see limitations. It’s like a fear… it’s just black and… it’s quite hard to see past… that black bit.

09:52.2 You want to start seeing past this but… it’s almost like a fog in some ways. It’s hard to see past it. I think it’s the density of that fear… when you think of it… it is this unknown fear. I think you develop that when you start getting to… your twenties… this fear. Or maybe that’s just something in the sort of creative subjects… You want to be fulfilled in your life, but at the same time, you know, you’ve got to live, so I think… the fog is just sort of not allowing you… to see past this… That’s what the fear does. It clouds your view and makes you blind in some ways.