16:25.4 I don’t really see it as a positive thing, what’s going on… ‘How can we use you… to make us better?’… I want to stray away from… this… If this is a person… something that’d, like, be more permanent. Maybe it’s a house… something that stays put, rather than just meanders along… the idea of the home’s just sustainable. Yeah, I want to… be a little column… build something, like, in my career, instead of… do… other people’s thoughts… Yeah, I wanna… not worry about this so much… it’s a clock… that’s always, like, the worry: it’s like the pressure.

24:09.4 I think my future seems to be in something else… It seems almost like inescapable when you start doing design… It’s a world of knowledge but then there’s like a well to fall into… the pool… trying to find… purpose to do something. It’s somewhere inside the pool that you have to dive into. 33:27.4 I don’t see it as like using the industry. It’s more just, like, if you’re already in the machine then you don’t really think about using those inside it. So it’s just going to the first placement and then the first thing and then working for a year or two or something, take a year out, realising you don’t want to do it and then going to another industry, da da da. 34:36.6 But this is so… fast, it’s… kind of scary to think that once you’re inside it you might never come out.