13:03.5 Even outside of profession… there’s a lot of avenues to try and walk down. Carl Jung… talks about the pain of trying to fit into a world where you’re part of a collective unconscious but you’re also an individual with your own subconscious… I used to want to live a long life. But now I just kind of want to live a happy life. Hopefully, you know, happiness is in my future… Being able to put my feet up and relax. And still have the time to be…working on things I like… Food in my belly. A roof over my head. Pretty much set. 18:04.4 I’d like to say that I’m happy with [not owning the roof] as long as I’m under it and I’m happy. I’d like to live under my roof, though. I’d want to feel the satisfaction at that point. I’ve accomplished something… and I get the reward for that… my own house… wouldn’t be falling apart [and would be] heated and warm.