14:09.5 Growing up… I moved every couple of years. I’ve never had that… really solid thing. And so up to now everything’s always changed… quite quickly and so, like, I try not to plan too much, you know? I would have, however, like a cat in the future [laughing]… Like a…it’s not a bad brick wall, but it is a brick wall… I’d really like to live by the sea… it’s home for me. I’m going to draw like little hills… I’ll just draw a sun as well… to show it’s not darkness behind the brick wall… I know a couple of people [with] five-year plans… And the idea of that… terrifies me… Yeah, it’s my wall. It’s a good wall! 17:05.0 I’m quite happy with my lot at the moment, you know…  can’t really imagine things getting better or worse. So it’s good [but] I’ll put something to make it more realistic. I’ll put a cloud in there as well. [laughing] Just a little white one, yeah, just to dampen my parade! I’m going to put some… waves in there as well.